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		<title>By: Joaninha</title>
		<link>http://mandingueira.com/2008/03/12/what-oscar-wilde-can-teach-you-about-capoeira/#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator>Joaninha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 04:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heheh...as someone who has yet to play the berimbau in an &quot;official&quot; roda, I think I can understand the thrill!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heheh&#8230;as someone who has yet to play the berimbau in an &#8220;official&#8221; roda, I think I can understand the thrill!</p>
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		<title>By: angoleiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>angoleiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Joaninha, there is not even certainty about how many toques there are. The most used ones for my old group where the &quot;three classics&quot; of Angola, Sao Bento Grande and Sao Bento Pequeno and Jogo de Dentro as the forth toque. Now that I am sitting on my keyboard rather than with a berimbau in my hands I&#039;d say that I cannot play 5 variations for each toque, but...errrr...3? and then there is a lot of in-play variation, sounds which come up while you are playing. doesnt happen too often to me, but if, then I am always proud like a child who did go to the loo for himself for the first time! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joaninha, there is not even certainty about how many toques there are. The most used ones for my old group where the &#8220;three classics&#8221; of Angola, Sao Bento Grande and Sao Bento Pequeno and Jogo de Dentro as the forth toque. Now that I am sitting on my keyboard rather than with a berimbau in my hands I&#8217;d say that I cannot play 5 variations for each toque, but&#8230;errrr&#8230;3? and then there is a lot of in-play variation, sounds which come up while you are playing. doesnt happen too often to me, but if, then I am always proud like a child who did go to the loo for himself for the first time! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joaninha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joaninha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Akira, that is very, very impressive.  Even if it was stressful for you at first, I would say that in the end that kind of attention and admiration the other beginner students gave you only did you good, really pushing you to improve like that!  Especially since you kept your feet on the ground through it all and didn&#039;t let any of it go to your head. :)  

Angoleiro: Can you play five variations on every type of berimbau toque?  I wouldn&#039;t mind learning a few more of those. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Akira, that is very, very impressive.  Even if it was stressful for you at first, I would say that in the end that kind of attention and admiration the other beginner students gave you only did you good, really pushing you to improve like that!  Especially since you kept your feet on the ground through it all and didn&#8217;t let any of it go to your head. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Angoleiro: Can you play five variations on every type of berimbau toque?  I wouldn&#8217;t mind learning a few more of those. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: akira87</title>
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		<dc:creator>akira87</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha I can barely play the pandeiro properly, let alone the berimbau! :-P

We&#039;re a traditional regional group, and therefore we focus on closeness, interaction, takedowns and we do not perform flips. One of Bimba&#039;s many rules is to have one point of contact with the ground at all times. Plus, if you flip around, it leaves you open to rasteiras, vingativas, tesouras and even a good old push (which we don&#039;t practise, but it can accidentally happen). Plus, if you&#039;re close to each other, flipping around is dangerous for both the practitioner and his opponent.

I have a role in our university capoeira group, which is to organise social events, and as such, am recognised and people approach me expecting me to be friendly etc. Plus, I kinda stand out even more so due to my physical appearance (as I wrote on your blog). Since I&#039;m easily recognisable and I&#039;ve been practising capoeira much longer than the majority of the uni players, they have me as a sort of role model slash skill reference point. When they first joined, they kept asking me how long I&#039;ve studied capoeira for because I guess they were setting targets within an approximate time frame for themselves.

Although they thought I was good at playing capoeira (relative to the rest of the group - I&#039;m still a beginner, don&#039;t forget), I personally didn&#039;t think I deserved the credit they gave me. I felt like a fraud on the inside and that felt really bad. I don&#039;t like cheats and liars, yet now I was made to feel like one because of their praise. I also hate letting people down. Outwardly, I didn&#039;t say anything to that effect because I didn&#039;t want to seem modest when I would just be being brutally honest.

In order to live up to their expectations in my eyes, I had to up my game quickly. I didn&#039;t go crazy and practise capoeira every moment of every day. Rather, during classes I paid more attention and gave more effort. I was more focused with a clear target if you will. Eventually, it paid off when my professor congratulated my game with another capoeirista, and for the first time remarked on my fluidity inside the roda. I was elated because finally, my capoeira was no longer stuck at a plateau that I felt I had reached but was continuing to improve.

Also, during a visit to the other half of our group in the city, one of the most senior members (both skill-wise and amount of time spent with our professor), who I hadn&#039;t seen in awhile, said to me, &quot;Akira, your play style has... it&#039;s like... it&#039;s totally different!&quot; I&#039;m going to take that as a compliment. ;-)

However, I don&#039;t want to get complacent. I want to continue improving, but not for others now, but for myself. I really enjoy capoeira and I can&#039;t imagine my life without it any more. Sounds sappy and cliched but it&#039;s true. I&#039;m going to be sad when I graduate from university, because back home there&#039;s no capoeira of any kind. But that&#039;s a topic for another time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha I can barely play the pandeiro properly, let alone the berimbau! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>We&#8217;re a traditional regional group, and therefore we focus on closeness, interaction, takedowns and we do not perform flips. One of Bimba&#8217;s many rules is to have one point of contact with the ground at all times. Plus, if you flip around, it leaves you open to rasteiras, vingativas, tesouras and even a good old push (which we don&#8217;t practise, but it can accidentally happen). Plus, if you&#8217;re close to each other, flipping around is dangerous for both the practitioner and his opponent.</p>
<p>I have a role in our university capoeira group, which is to organise social events, and as such, am recognised and people approach me expecting me to be friendly etc. Plus, I kinda stand out even more so due to my physical appearance (as I wrote on your blog). Since I&#8217;m easily recognisable and I&#8217;ve been practising capoeira much longer than the majority of the uni players, they have me as a sort of role model slash skill reference point. When they first joined, they kept asking me how long I&#8217;ve studied capoeira for because I guess they were setting targets within an approximate time frame for themselves.</p>
<p>Although they thought I was good at playing capoeira (relative to the rest of the group &#8211; I&#8217;m still a beginner, don&#8217;t forget), I personally didn&#8217;t think I deserved the credit they gave me. I felt like a fraud on the inside and that felt really bad. I don&#8217;t like cheats and liars, yet now I was made to feel like one because of their praise. I also hate letting people down. Outwardly, I didn&#8217;t say anything to that effect because I didn&#8217;t want to seem modest when I would just be being brutally honest.</p>
<p>In order to live up to their expectations in my eyes, I had to up my game quickly. I didn&#8217;t go crazy and practise capoeira every moment of every day. Rather, during classes I paid more attention and gave more effort. I was more focused with a clear target if you will. Eventually, it paid off when my professor congratulated my game with another capoeirista, and for the first time remarked on my fluidity inside the roda. I was elated because finally, my capoeira was no longer stuck at a plateau that I felt I had reached but was continuing to improve.</p>
<p>Also, during a visit to the other half of our group in the city, one of the most senior members (both skill-wise and amount of time spent with our professor), who I hadn&#8217;t seen in awhile, said to me, &#8220;Akira, your play style has&#8230; it&#8217;s like&#8230; it&#8217;s totally different!&#8221; I&#8217;m going to take that as a compliment. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t want to get complacent. I want to continue improving, but not for others now, but for myself. I really enjoy capoeira and I can&#8217;t imagine my life without it any more. Sounds sappy and cliched but it&#8217;s true. I&#8217;m going to be sad when I graduate from university, because back home there&#8217;s no capoeira of any kind. But that&#8217;s a topic for another time.</p>
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		<title>By: angoleiro</title>
		<link>http://mandingueira.com/2008/03/12/what-oscar-wilde-can-teach-you-about-capoeira/#comment-651</link>
		<dc:creator>angoleiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Akira, you really took it serious and tried to &quot;shape up to fit into their expectiation of your skill level&quot; ? Wow, I know the urge behind it, but as far as I see it only people who are more experienced than you are can comprehend and see how far and good you are. Cause they have been there. A beginner would see other things and think that those belong to experienced players like &quot;wow, HE can do a double-back flip, he must be an experienced capoeirista&quot;. They would not really take care of you being able to play at least 5 variations on every toque on the berimbau, for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Akira, you really took it serious and tried to &#8220;shape up to fit into their expectiation of your skill level&#8221; ? Wow, I know the urge behind it, but as far as I see it only people who are more experienced than you are can comprehend and see how far and good you are. Cause they have been there. A beginner would see other things and think that those belong to experienced players like &#8220;wow, HE can do a double-back flip, he must be an experienced capoeirista&#8221;. They would not really take care of you being able to play at least 5 variations on every toque on the berimbau, for example.</p>
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		<title>By: akira87</title>
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		<dc:creator>akira87</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daria, off the top of my head, here&#039;s my input:

8) Respect for oneself.
9) Respect for others.
10) Courage
11) Awareness (situationally, emotionally, introspectively)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daria, off the top of my head, here&#8217;s my input:</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Respect for oneself.<br />
9) Respect for others.<br />
10) Courage<br />
11) Awareness (situationally, emotionally, introspectively)</p>
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		<title>By: akira87</title>
		<link>http://mandingueira.com/2008/03/12/what-oscar-wilde-can-teach-you-about-capoeira/#comment-649</link>
		<dc:creator>akira87</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generally speaking, I don&#039;t witness hot-headedness often. Like I said in that mammoth essay-like comment for your mestre role article (sorry!), our group is laid-back and friendly. But yes, when I do witness it I do kinda feel bad for them. However, it&#039;s more of a what-an-idiot kind of bad and embarassed feeling if you catch my drift.

I&#039;m still a beginner myself! But since the half of my group I train regularly with is based at university, the term &#039;beginner&#039; has been skewered since the oldest members at any point in time will only have had 2+ years of experience (excluding the players from the city). If a firm definition of &#039;beginner&#039; for our group had to be set, it is anyone who has practised for under a year and hasn&#039;t been taught all the basic movements (including rasteira and tesouras of all variations). In a less defined manner, though I&#039;ve only played caps for 1.5 years, I have (at long last!!!) got a certain fluidity about my movements plus comfort while rolling about on the floor that the others who have only studied for half a year have not discovered yet.

Mind you, it took me a full year to achieve that, so it&#039;s not a big bragging point. I remember watching the new people at the beginning of this (uni) year developing quickly after only a couple of months, and thinking to myself, &quot;I&#039;ve been doing this for a year and they&#039;ve already caught up... Damn, what is wrong with me?&quot;

Through necessity, since technically I&#039;m supposedly one of the more senior members of our university band, I&#039;ve had to shape up and fit into their expectations of my skill level. You know when people put you on a pesdestal than you don&#039;t think you deserve, but you have to carry on the illusion because you don&#039;t want to let anyone down, then it becomes reality? It really happened in my case (fortunately!). :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally speaking, I don&#8217;t witness hot-headedness often. Like I said in that mammoth essay-like comment for your mestre role article (sorry!), our group is laid-back and friendly. But yes, when I do witness it I do kinda feel bad for them. However, it&#8217;s more of a what-an-idiot kind of bad and embarassed feeling if you catch my drift.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still a beginner myself! But since the half of my group I train regularly with is based at university, the term &#8216;beginner&#8217; has been skewered since the oldest members at any point in time will only have had 2+ years of experience (excluding the players from the city). If a firm definition of &#8216;beginner&#8217; for our group had to be set, it is anyone who has practised for under a year and hasn&#8217;t been taught all the basic movements (including rasteira and tesouras of all variations). In a less defined manner, though I&#8217;ve only played caps for 1.5 years, I have (at long last!!!) got a certain fluidity about my movements plus comfort while rolling about on the floor that the others who have only studied for half a year have not discovered yet.</p>
<p>Mind you, it took me a full year to achieve that, so it&#8217;s not a big bragging point. I remember watching the new people at the beginning of this (uni) year developing quickly after only a couple of months, and thinking to myself, &#8220;I&#8217;ve been doing this for a year and they&#8217;ve already caught up&#8230; Damn, what is wrong with me?&#8221;</p>
<p>Through necessity, since technically I&#8217;m supposedly one of the more senior members of our university band, I&#8217;ve had to shape up and fit into their expectations of my skill level. You know when people put you on a pesdestal than you don&#8217;t think you deserve, but you have to carry on the illusion because you don&#8217;t want to let anyone down, then it becomes reality? It really happened in my case (fortunately!). <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joaninha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joaninha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Daria, 

Thanks!  I&#039;m glad you got something out of it. =)  If you&#039;re thinking about traits that make a good capoeirista right now, funnily enough Faisca just wrote a fairly relevant post on that, as he mentioned!  You can check it out &lt;a href=&quot;http://thecapoeirablog.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/capoeira-the-8-principles-of-a-great-capoeirista/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Daria, </p>
<p>Thanks!  I&#8217;m glad you got something out of it. =)  If you&#8217;re thinking about traits that make a good capoeirista right now, funnily enough Faisca just wrote a fairly relevant post on that, as he mentioned!  You can check it out <a href="http://thecapoeirablog.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/capoeira-the-8-principles-of-a-great-capoeirista/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Daria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was another great post, Joaninha!  The quote about paying your bills on time especially resonated with me.  This post also got me thinking about that traits that make a good capoeirista.  I hope others will add to this list. 

1) athleticism
2) tenacity
3) ingenuity
5) the ability to control your body and your emotions
6) an understanding of the game
7) the ability to withstand emotional and physical discomfort
8)?
9)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was another great post, Joaninha!  The quote about paying your bills on time especially resonated with me.  This post also got me thinking about that traits that make a good capoeirista.  I hope others will add to this list. </p>
<p>1) athleticism<br />
2) tenacity<br />
3) ingenuity<br />
5) the ability to control your body and your emotions<br />
6) an understanding of the game<br />
7) the ability to withstand emotional and physical discomfort<br />
8)?<br />
9)?</p>
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		<title>By: Joaninha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joaninha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, Faisca?  I can definitely see the playfulness and imagination ones, but they&#039;re kind of obvious; other than that I don&#039;t think there&#039;s actually much overlap at all!  But thanks a lot, and I&#039;m glad you enjoyed the quotes! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, Faisca?  I can definitely see the playfulness and imagination ones, but they&#8217;re kind of obvious; other than that I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s actually much overlap at all!  But thanks a lot, and I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed the quotes! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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